Naruto Chapter 398: Konoha's Beginnings
Summary: Madara claims that Itachi massacred the Uchiha on orders from Konoha's leaders and begins to tell the tale of Konoha's origin. (Read 389 here).
Serenphoria says:
I love flashbacks!
[Framing the Story]
I think Kishimoto was very clever having Sasuke question Madara's trustworthiness and then having Madara admitting he can't back up his words so it's up to Sasuke whether or not to believe them. Here, Sasuke is a proxy for the reader - we are just as skeptical and wary of new information about Itachi as he is. (I personally think Sasuke would not even have the curiosity or patience to hear Itachi's story at this point, but he did it for our benefit ^_^). Thus, when Madara says 'You'll have to decide to believe or not, but hear me out,' he's talking to us as well. By not insisting on convincing us he is trustworthy, he in fact becomes more trustworthy. (It's a basic psychology principle that people doing something not their self-interest are more trustworthy)
And by putting the onus on readers to decide truth from untruth, Kishi protects himself from any direction he wants to go. Plot point later that doesn't meet expectations? Well, you can't be upset because it was never 'Truth,' you just chose to believe it was.
This gives Kishi significant leverage to have Madara lie, omit, modify history for his own ends. But I like where it's headed so far...
[Coming of Age and the Loss of Identity]
I really liked the fact that Sandaime was in on the supposed order to get rid of the Uchiha. Through the lens of the Rookie 9 and especially Naruto, Sandaime is the evangelist of Konoha's most cherished values: empathy, kindness, family, connections, the will of fire ... to have been part of such a brutal decision and to have kept this secret to his grave casts him in a different light. The peace that Konoha knows was bought with blood and is still perhaps a facade. It's a slap-in-the-face reminder that Konoha is not the sun-shiney safe haven that we know, but a village in which its main economic trade is mercenary work and have no qualms putting sharp metal weapons into the hands of toddlers.
I think the revelation that Itachi was on orders is a bit of a coming-of-age moment for Sasuke, as it is for us. The scope of your world is bigger than your immediate family. Evil does not start and end with a person. The green glasses are lifted and we find that home is not perfect - far from it. I won't go so far as to say Itachi is a victim of his broken society, but he was used as a tool to fix (or perpetuate?) it.
To overly simplify things, Konoha hides its ugly foundations (with good effect, esp. with the new generation) but the reality is that it still has an ugly core.
[But this is also where I see Naruto becoming the true hero of this tale. His idealism, naiveté, and stubbornness allows him to redefine the values which govern his life, his way of the ninja, and live it out steadfastly. And it's his utter commitment to them gives him the power to shake everyone else's preconceptions of how things are and should be. Unbeknownst to him, he's not just striving to inherit Sandaime's legacy, but to enact real change.]
I had more to say, but I'm sleepy and dying to read the next chapter!
5 Comments:
Oh, Sasuke, you noble, noble soul- standing in for the audience like that, kindly taking Sakura's one job from her!
What? Nobody believes that I think Sasuke is noble? Damn. You're all too smart for me.
I never really did lose sight of the fact that the Guitar Music of Achievement, and Naruto, Jiraya, and Kakashi's weird obsession with porn hid the fact that a cartoon nation sent out cartoon children to die (cartoonishly). That having been said, it can be a useful allegory for coming-of-age, and the realization that it isn't "my country is always right" or similar messages. I'd cheer, if I thought that was Kishimoto's Grand Design. I don't think so, though. But then,I don't look for the meaning of life in manga. That's what fortune cookies are for.
THAT having been said, I read a book once, that I dearly loved, and from what you've written, Snowy (you'll always be Snowy to me. Besides, I can't abbreviate Serenphoria into anything that makes sense) it's appropriate. The protagonist has suffered the loss of her illusions, namely, that of family, that they love her, and cherish her no matter what happens. She finds that her father is willing to sacrifice her life for his greed, and that her sister, envious, (and generally Not Very Nice) has taken an object out of her possession that was poisoned (the protagonist didn't know it was poisoned. Normal people don't haul poisoned jewelry around.), and is dying from it. Her mother blames the protagonist, and tells her that she can't love her anymore. The protagonist finds out, in short, that her family isn't safe from evil, and that corruption was always there- she was just blind to it. She asks a priest: "But who started this evil?" The priest answered: "That's the wrong question. The right question is: Who will be the one to end it?" Her answer? "I will."
I've always liked that quote. I suppose, in a roundabout way, the same sort of thing has the potential to happen here. It would be waaaaay out of character for Sasuke to do it, though. But Naruto will. And that's why I like him. Can we have him back now? Please?
I also think that Kishimoto's giving himself someplace to go once they get Sasuke back (or he turns into the antagonist. I did think Orochimarued!Kabuto wouldn't be as awesome as Machiavellian Bastard!Kabuto as a villain anyway.).
Thanks for your thoughts Taters, and I don't mind the old name :) - you're right, there isn't an intuitive way to shorten serenphoria.
Glad some of my late night rambling made sense (gah! so may errors I didn't catch in my sleepy stupor) and I really liked that quote you shared.
Yeah, I think Sasuke will at the most be an ally or offer information that will help Naruto, but it's much too out of character for him to be the one to end Konoha's history of crazy.
Fantastic and insightful!
'Kay, now I have something to add.
I (still) think Madara set the Kyuubi on Konoha 16 years ago, even if he says different.
To say he's still trying to protect the Uchiha who abandoned/betrayed him? Nonsense. He wanted revenge on them *and* the Senju.
Leaving one alive? That's just so he hadn't destroyed his family completely, and he thinks Sasuke will be controllable.
Still I wonder though--why collect the Bijuu, why help Pein? Does he wish the world to return to the state it was before one village one country became common place? So the old hate has a place--so his brother's sacrifice would not be in vain?
@nibbles
>I (still) think Madara set the Kyuubi on Konoha 16 years ago
I agree. His explanation seems weak.
>Leaving one alive? That's just so he hadn't destroyed his family completely, and he thinks Sasuke will be controllable.
Huh. Interesting thought. Killing the Uchiha contradicts his wish to protect the clan, yet he was Itachi's accomplice in the massacre (at least, I think Itachi said they were in it together?). I'm tempted to think that Sasuke's life was negotiated with the powers that be.
>Why help Pein?
I'm not even going to touch that yet. Will helping war-mongering Pain help Madara? We still haven't a clue what Madara's real goal is, since there really are no more Uchiha to protect. The likeliest thing is revenge, like you said?
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